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Firewalls and antivirus programs
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| -SwitcH- |
Posted on 28-09-2009 13:31
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yup. exactly what gangi sayed =P
if your computer seems fine it dosent mean its fine 
on avg. a computer connected to the internet without a firewall will be breached and under some1s control in less then 1 hour. =P
Edited by -SwitcH- on 28-09-2009 13:36
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| Gangi |
Posted on 28-09-2009 13:55
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Damn Switch we told about fight in this topic. You shouldn't agree with me :D
Edited by Gangi on 28-09-2009 13:55
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| iRRE |
Posted on 28-09-2009 17:25
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Ok , you pulled your own meaning out of my post .
I never said go online without firewall. I said that AntiVirus prgramms are SH*T.
I know very well that you don't realise most of everything that harms you.
If you read carefully i wrote: "If you know where to stick your head up (i wrote "in" but it must be "up"  )."
I'm all the time 2 lazy to explain everything in english and I was sure that you understand what i write... But as i see you didn't  .
I also didn't write Vincent's solution is the best of all - only the best i read so far here in ths thread.
I'm using software firewall (Commodo 64-Bit) and hardware firewall.
As a little addition i know where to stick my head up ( ) and I'm watching the activities via HiJackThis and a few other things.
But i'm not running any stupid AntiVirus program what slows my PC down. (It's also not that i wouldn't recommend some for "Newbies"
BTW: I'm using Opera
Edited by iRRE on 28-09-2009 18:00
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| Gangi |
Posted on 28-09-2009 18:09
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Then write that because if we can't understand you then ppl who know about computers less don't understand you too.
About your method. change hijackthis on combofix. It's better and hijackthis cant detect everything. Your method is good if you don't care about system. I mean you can reinstall it many times and you don't have there nothing important.
If you have access to more important sites like banks, work etc then it is hardcore. One key-logger and you can lost your many, one time you don't look that this site isn't in SSL protocol and you lost your data. You can know many about computer but you are still human.
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| iRRE |
Posted on 28-09-2009 18:39
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When i start having important files (for study etc...) i will only access them on a PC without internet  . |
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| -SwitcH- |
Posted on 28-09-2009 19:43
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Gangi wrote:
Damn Switch we told about fight in this topic. You shouldn't agree with me
there will always be more arguments for us to disagree on =P
iRRE wrote:
When i start having important files (for study etc...) i will only access them on a PC without internet .
*that same computer with the internet cable taken out for a while*
xD had to say it
Edited by -SwitcH- on 28-09-2009 19:49
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| iRRE |
Posted on 28-09-2009 23:49
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-SwitcH- wrote:
*that same computer with the internet cable taken out for a while*
x D had to say it
Master iRRE says:
*Don't doubt whatever the Master says.* |
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| mockfrog |
Posted on 29-09-2009 10:39
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Gangi wrote:
And you think you are secure?:>
yeah, I think so. I hardened my environment, so you probably need to attack my system directly, which is rather unlikely to happen. Beside from this threat, I would call my system secure since virtually all known drive-by attacks will fail or only cause minimal harm since you not only have to attack an application to get onto the computer, but you also have to escalate your rigths to compromise the system permanently. It is not impossible but since there are billions of easy targets out there (Hello to all windows admin surfers) sophisticated attacks trying to infect a few hardened unixoid desktops are somewhat unlikely.
I'd call this secure to an economical reasonable extent .
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| -SwitcH- |
Posted on 29-09-2009 12:22
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or go mac =P
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| Gangi |
Posted on 29-09-2009 12:48
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Yes Linux is pretty secure. But as everyone this system use human. One mistake and you can create easy access to system to others. If you use Linux you need have more knowledge about system structure as windows users because You can change everything there.
About Mac well this system it more popular last time well more hackers start interesting in this system. With time it will same dangerous like windows.
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| mockfrog |
Posted on 03-10-2009 14:08
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Gangi wrote:
Yes Linux is pretty secure. But as everyone this system use human. One mistake and you can create easy access to system to others. If you use Linux you need have more knowledge about system structure as windows users because You can change everything there.
About Mac well this system it more popular last time well more hackers start interesting in this system. With time it will same dangerous like windows.
well, of course you can mess up every system. if it is more open, you can mess up more
nevertheless you don't need to know more about operating systems if you use windows nowadays. I installed openSuSE on my parents computer and now they don't use windows anymore (which is also on there). On most linux distributions everything is pretty straight forward. You don't need to mess with drivers or try to get software from dubious websites. And regarding installation, it is one click and answering three or four questions (about your name, PW and your location for setting up time and keyboard layout).
And regarding Mac, they have pretty messed up some unix related concepts (you may want to google for setuid and mac os ) Furthermore, they try to lock in the user even more then microsoft does.
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| rexem |
Posted on 13-10-2009 23:23
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SixteenV wrote:
i have vista , but i dont like it, the harddisk make noize 7 min long after start, tryed everything but it dont work.... mayby i install XP again
Well, as hard as you hate Vista, it's definitely not Vista's fault that your HDD makes noises. Try freeing up some space, defragmenting hard drive, make some tweaks or proper disk partitioning. |
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| Noctis |
Posted on 15-10-2009 10:33
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-SwitcH- wrote:
iRRE wrote:
When i start having important files (for study etc...) i will only access them on a PC without internet .
*that same computer with the internet cable taken out for a while*
x D had to say it
HAHAHAHAA so true |
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| -SwitcH- |
Posted on 16-10-2009 06:06
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install 7 then. proffesional version is out.(but u cant play wolf then yet ) vista sucks ass i agree but that HDD noise aint related to the operation system. thats the computers fault.
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| Noctis |
Posted on 16-10-2009 10:02
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-SwitcH- wrote:
install 7 then. proffesional version is out.(but u cant play wolf then yet ) vista sucks ass i agree but that HDD noise aint related to the operation system. thats the computers fault.
Yes you can play Wolfenstein now, they fixed the PB issue. I play it on Seven. |
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